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Lillyfire
Lillyfire
obama is amazing
Jun 10 2008, 3:15 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 10 2008, 3:15 PM EDT
one of the few presidental canidates that gets everyone this excited
if you agree than find me valuable
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GreekHoplite
GreekHoplite
1. RE: obama is amazing
Jun 12 2008, 3:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 12 2008, 3:09 PM EDT
Barack Obama is the leader of 21th century....A New Age has started, an Age of Freedom and Democracy and Obama is the leader to lead the world to the future.... 11  out of 14 found this valuable. Do you?    

BrandonE
2. RE: obama is amazing
Jun 13 2008, 4:47 PM EDT | Post edited: Jun 13 2008, 4:47 PM EDT
The leader of the new america! 8  out of 12 found this valuable. Do you?    

ChicagoGuy
3. RE: obama is amazing
Sep 14 2008, 7:42 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 14 2008, 7:42 PM EDT
agree
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pelagonia
4. RE: obama is amazing
Sep 16 2008, 3:05 AM EDT | Post edited: Sep 16 2008, 3:05 AM EDT
he is good only for greeks he like greeks and i don't like him
i 'am macedonia and i die macedonian
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ivanMKD
5. RE: obama is amazing
Sep 16 2008, 6:51 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 16 2008, 6:51 PM EDT
does it mean that taking care just for money is being amazing?ppl remember one thing MONEY MAKE THE WORLD GO ROUND!!! just look at his donations. 1  out of 6 found this valuable. Do you?    
Rembrandt
Rembrandt
6. RE: obama is amazing
Sep 29 2008, 12:43 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 29 2008, 12:43 PM EDT
"he is good only for greeks he like greeks and i don't like him
i 'am macedonia and i die macedonian
"
Dude. He's the US candidate for president. What, exactly, are you expecting from a leader a world away? Do the French presidential candidates get you this overwrought? Do you seek out conversation about Putin and his recognition of Macedonia/lack thereof? Come on, man.
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twins1729
twins1729
7. RE: obama is amazing
Sep 29 2008, 1:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Sep 29 2008, 1:18 PM EDT
Obama is definitely what this country needs.

It seems like most of the people that like McCain are the older generation anyway. We're trying to look ahead to the future of America and I want it to be more than a year and a half.
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#1LostFan
#1LostFan
9. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 12 2008, 11:54 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 12 2008, 11:54 PM EDT
"You are only voting for him because he is black and is saying that he will change things.
A few things to think about: Obama is a first term senator.
Obama goes to an anti american church where the pastor says "God D*** america!* (he must be a true american)
His wife is also anti american("this is the first time I have ever been proud of my country")
He has had people give an amount of money to him that exceeds the limits of donations set down in the constitution.
He has associated himself with a radic who bombed houses in the 1960's.
His mom gave birth to Barack HUSSEIN Obama when she was unmarried at 17 yet he is taking potshots at Palin because her daughter is pregnant and unwed when obama himself was born to a single underage mother!

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This here is perfect evidence of what McCain's attacking strategy has done. It only brainwashes supporters of him, and does not hurt the Obama campaign. Attacking is a sign of being desperate, showing that McCain knows he is struggling in the race, as the polls reflect. I found it very amusing when a woman told McCain that Obama was an Arab. McCain, just like you, midgetdrunkman, is calling Obama "Barack Hussein Obama", which is indirectly attempting to link him to the Middle East, and people who are too naive will make that connection that does not exist, which is Obama is a terrorist. Negative attacks will actually put neutral people off of McCain, so go ahead and keep on attacking; it will only make McCain weaker.
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midgetdrunkman
10. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 13 2008, 1:22 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 1:22 AM EDT
At the time I had this information, I was only liking Mccain because he was the less of evils. If Huckabee were still in the race, I would be one of his supporters. Say what you will, but I do not think that Obama is ready to be the commander in chief of America.
I do not like the fact that politics have become verbal battles where the victor get's a posistion of power. I am not trying to imply that obama is a terrorist, that is just icing on the cake.
Another thing, Obama has been exposed to so much of the muslim religion that he could actually be a muslim. And if he is a muslim, people would be electing a man who is against the things that this nation was built on, Christian beliefs.
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DevanSampson
DevanSampson
11. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 13 2008, 8:01 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 8:01 AM EDT
"one of the few presidental canidates that gets everyone this excited
if you agree than find me valuable
"
I know!!!!!!!! OAMA 08! Teens for obama!
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jimmiller5417
12. RE: We need Barack Obama as Commander in Chief
Oct 13 2008, 9:27 AM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 9:27 AM EDT
"At the time I had this information, I was only liking Mccain because he was the less of evils. If Huckabee were still in the race, I would be one of his supporters. Say what you will, but I do not think that Obama is ready to be the commander in chief of America.
I do not like the fact that politics have become verbal battles where the victor get's a posistion of power. I am not trying to imply that obama is a terrorist, that is just icing on the cake.
Another thing, Obama has been exposed to so much of the muslim religion that he could actually be a muslim. And if he is a muslim, people would be electing a man who is against the things that this nation was built on, Christian beliefs."
There is an old military saying that the Generals are always planning to fight the next war with the tools and strategies for the past war. McCain's mindset is one of the old Generals. His "surge" strategy is proof of that. All the extra troops did is cause the terrorists to regroup elsewhere -- a well known guerrilla warfare tactic. The next question, is Obama qualified? As against McCain and Paulin, YES!

Barack Obama has a very disciplined mind. He is careful in the ideas he expresses and in his choice of word. While is delivery is a bit uneven, he gets quality ideas before the public -- the first step. The second aspect of Obama is that he listens respectfully and with full attention. The debates prove that. He is intellectually honest. His training as a lawyer and work in the poverty regions of Chicago makes him academically as well as "street smart".

Tthere are TW0 Air Forces, the one on paper (top down) and the real one on the ground, generally run by the Sergeants who actually got the job done. So, "Mr. Top Down McCain" just confirms my fears that he will choose a really bad course of action to "win the war' in Iraq, when we really need to "win the peace". See my article below, HOW TO WIN THE PEACE IN IRAQ.

I want Obama as Commander in Chief who is cool, calm and collected as McCain is not. I read where John “George” McCain has an anger control problem. We sure don't need a C in C who flies off the handle. McCain will only get more Americans killed. What scares me the most is that if McCain should die in office or resign, Paulin would be our commander in chief - THAT is really scary. The killing of Iraqi civilians has only embittered the folks of Iraq and the Middle-east in general.

We have no real choice but to elect Barack Obama as our next President.

Jim Miller
jimmiller5417@yahoo.com
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Rembrandt
Rembrandt
13. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 13 2008, 1:18 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 1:18 PM EDT
"At the time I had this information, I was only liking Mccain because he was the less of evils. If Huckabee were still in the race, I would be one of his supporters. Say what you will, but I do not think that Obama is ready to be the commander in chief of America.
I do not like the fact that politics have become verbal battles where the victor get's a posistion of power. I am not trying to imply that obama is a terrorist, that is just icing on the cake.
Another thing, Obama has been exposed to so much of the muslim religion that he could actually be a muslim. And if he is a muslim, people would be electing a man who is against the things that this nation was built on, Christian beliefs."
You do know that this nation was specifically not founded on Christian beliefs, and that most of the Founding Fathers were Deists?

And how, exactly does one "pick up" Islam? Is it contagious, like chicken pox? If I live near a mosque am I in danger of catching Islam? Are there rashes involved, or does your skin just turn dusky?

If you want to argue for McCain, then pick something about him and argue it. If all you have is talking points, you're wasting everyone's time, including your own.
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midgetdrunkman
14. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 13 2008, 1:28 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 1:28 PM EDT
If somone is exposed to a certain religion many times while they are growing up, they are most likely to pick up that religion. 1  out of 2 found this valuable. Do you?    
Rembrandt
Rembrandt
15. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 13 2008, 2:03 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 2:03 PM EDT
"If somone is exposed to a certain religion many times while they are growing up, they are most likely to pick up that religion."
His dad a) had left Islam before Obama was born, and b) left the family when he was two. He's Christian, if that matters to you. Given that Barack went to both Catholic and Muslim schools in Indonesia, a nation with a moderate Islamic majority, he had more than one option growing up and ended up choosing a Christian path. You can't be secretly Muslim and still to be Christian. That's not how it works. You can either claim that his pastor is a problem or you can claim that he's some sort of SEEKRIT MUSLIM!!1!!1!, but you can't have both.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

Read all about it, man.

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macedonONE
macedonONE
16. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 13 2008, 2:34 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 2:34 PM EDT
"You do know that this nation was specifically not founded on Christian beliefs, and that most of the Founding Fathers were Deists?

And how, exactly does one "pick up" Islam? Is it contagious, like chicken pox? If I live near a mosque am I in danger of catching Islam? Are there rashes involved, or does your skin just turn dusky?

If you want to argue for McCain, then pick something about him and argue it. If all you have is talking points, you're wasting everyone's time, including your own. "
What do you mean that was not founded by Christian beliefs? You are saying that the Protestants are not Christian? What religion were Jefferson, Lincoln, Washington, Adams, Monroe ? America is very Protestant Christian foundation. How many presidents are Protestant? All, minus 1 or 2.
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Rembrandt
Rembrandt
17. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 13 2008, 3:09 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 3:09 PM EDT
"What do you mean that was not founded by Christian beliefs? You are saying that the Protestants are not Christian? What religion were Jefferson, Lincoln, Washington, Adams, Monroe ? America is very Protestant Christian foundation. How many presidents are Protestant? All, minus 1 or 2."
Enlightenment philosophy had a huge effect on the planning of the Constitution and the reasoning behind the American Revolution, and that philosophy was founded heavily in deist ideals. Founding Fathers who were especially noted for being influenced by such philosophy include Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Cornelius Harnett, Gouverneur Morris, and Hugh Williamson. Their political speeches show distinct deistic influence. Other notable Founding Fathers may have been more directly deist. These include James Madison, John Adams, possibly Alexander Hamilton, Ethan Allen, and Thomas Paine (who published The Age of Reason, a treatise that helped to popularize deism throughout America and Europe).

Thomas Paine in particular hated churches and all organized religion, and while they all promoted the idea of a God above all, the rest of it -- including any supernatural influences, reports of miracles, virgin births, etc. -- was considered mere speculation.

While they all professed a belief in God, it wasn't anything like what you'd probably consider "Christian" today. And most of the individuals you listed weren't the Founding Fathers, which were what the discussion referred to. You're talking about presidents. Not the same thing.
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macedonONE
macedonONE
18. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 13 2008, 3:46 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 3:46 PM EDT
"Enlightenment philosophy had a huge effect on the planning of the Constitution and the reasoning behind the American Revolution, and that philosophy was founded heavily in deist ideals. Founding Fathers who were especially noted for being influenced by such philosophy include Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Cornelius Harnett, Gouverneur Morris, and Hugh Williamson. Their political speeches show distinct deistic influence. Other notable Founding Fathers may have been more directly deist. These include James Madison, John Adams, possibly Alexander Hamilton, Ethan Allen, and Thomas Paine (who published The Age of Reason, a treatise that helped to popularize deism throughout America and Europe).

Thomas Paine in particular hated churches and all organized religion, and while they all promoted the idea of a God above all, the rest of it -- including any supernatural influences, reports of miracles, virgin births, etc. -- was considered mere speculation.

While they all professed a belief in God, it wasn't anything like what you'd probably consider "Christian" today. And most of the individuals you listed weren't the Founding Fathers, which were what the discussion referred to. You're talking about presidents. Not the same thing. "
There is huge difference between Christians today and beck then in the XVIII century. The Deism was a new philosophy in the XVI century, which roots are from the Anglican Church. Like all Protestant variations coming from Catholicism, the deism is coming from protestantism. The bible is same for all, but depends on teachings in which way will be interpreted. And again all the variations of Christianity are based on the New Testament from the Bible.
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Rembrandt
Rembrandt
19. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 13 2008, 5:56 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 13 2008, 5:56 PM EDT
"There is huge difference between Christians today and beck then in the XVIII century. The Deism was a new philosophy in the XVI century, which roots are from the Anglican Church. Like all Protestant variations coming from Catholicism, the deism is coming from protestantism. The bible is same for all, but depends on teachings in which way will be interpreted. And again all the variations of Christianity are based on the New Testament from the Bible. "
Except that part of deism is pretty much rejecting organized religion, like, say, protestantism. It's more philosophy than religion. So yes, I stand by the statement that it wasn't founded on Christian beliefs, but rather on philosophy.
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midgetdrunkman
20. RE: obama is amazing
Oct 14 2008, 2:16 PM EDT | Post edited: Oct 14 2008, 2:16 PM EDT
"Enlightenment philosophy had a huge effect on the planning of the Constitution and the reasoning behind the American Revolution, and that philosophy was founded heavily in deist ideals. Founding Fathers who were especially noted for being influenced by such philosophy include Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, Cornelius Harnett, Gouverneur Morris, and Hugh Williamson. Their political speeches show distinct deistic influence. Other notable Founding Fathers may have been more directly deist. These include James Madison, John Adams, possibly Alexander Hamilton, Ethan Allen, and Thomas Paine (who published The Age of Reason, a treatise that helped to popularize deism throughout America and Europe).

Thomas Paine in particular hated churches and all organized religion, and while they all promoted the idea of a God above all, the rest of it -- including any supernatural influences, reports of miracles, virgin births, etc. -- was considered mere speculation.

While they all professed a belief in God, it wasn't anything like what you'd probably consider "Christian" today. And most of the individuals you listed weren't the Founding Fathers, which were what the discussion referred to. You're talking about presidents. Not the same thing. "
Ben Franklin did not openly say that he was a deist.
And you are wrong about the christians ideals not being the foundation of America, christian ideals are the reason that the pilgrims came on the mayflower, to get away from the ungodly church of england.
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