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genuineMACEDONIAN |
130. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 18 2009, 3:54 PM EST
AND U ARE IN NO POSITION TO ASK ANYTHING UNTIL U REPLY TO MY ANSWERS THAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THE LAST 2 HOURS!
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131. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 18 2009, 3:56 PM EST
U DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE SYMBOL HAHAHAHAHAHA! HOW PATHETIC!
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132. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 19 2009, 9:39 AM EST
don't forget bulgarian monkeydonian, i am still waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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133. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 19 2009, 12:22 PM EST
"don't forget bulgarian monkeydonian, i am still waiting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"you are waiting to hear some greek propaganda. I am not brainwashed to repeat it. However, I am waiting, too. Give me an example when have you stareted to use sun as your symbol, after you formed your hellass republic/kingdom in 1830s? And here is the Proof that the Sun is our symbol (on the balkans): We, Macedonians, use the Sun on our coat of arms and in our anthem, since the restoration of our country in 1944. Do you find this valuable? |
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134. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 19 2009, 3:39 PM EST
"you are waiting to hear some greek propaganda. I am not brainwashed to repeat it.and never before that........ before that you used the bulgarian lion and the slogan of "Freedom ot death" ( Sloboda ili smurt ) na BRCK na Vasil Levski! Do you find this valuable? |
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135. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 3:46 AM EST
"you are waiting to hear some greek propaganda. I am not brainwashed to repeat it.Is this the sun that you used after 1944? http://flagspot.net/flags/yu_fy-mk.html Because it doesn't really look like the (supposedly) ancient Macedonian symbol found in Ancient Aegae. I would like to quote here Andy fear from another FOTW page: "Most of the above claims are of course highly controversial. This emblem was found on tomb 2 at Kutlush (to give Vergina its pre ethnically cleansed name). However there is no agreement that this is the tomb of Philip II nor that this emblem (which appears with a variety of numbers of arms) was either the dynastic emblem of the Argeads (the ruling house of Macedonia) or of the country itself. The emblem is not specifically Greek or Macedonian - it is found in the Near East thousands of years before it turns up in Europe and ironically features as a decorative motif on one of the reliefs of Persian Immortal Guardsman found at Darius' palace at Susa. Andy Fear, 28 August 1995" Of course, Mr. Andy fear is wrong. The emblem was not found either in Vergina (Greekisized Latina name) or in Kutlesh (Turkish name). It was found underneath those locations, in the ruins of Aigai, the capital of the Ancient Macedonians, in the mid 1970's. Do you find this valuable? |
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136. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 7:56 AM EST
NO matter how u look at it! MACEDONIA IS GREECE
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137. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 1:27 PM EST
"Is this the sun that you used after 1944?LOL That what you have found is the communist flag that was imposed to us by your serbian friends. It might also be a SUN, too. But very distant. :-)) The Sun, AS I SAID, is on the Coat of Arms and in the Anthem SINCE we formed our post-turkish state. Here they are, and look if it looks like a sun on the Coat of arms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Macedonia and read the anthem. It is 1944, 40+ years before you discovered that the Sun was symbol of the ancient macedonians, too. In "vergina". *** Just to be clear, that is not the Sun of Aigi, nor the Sun of Aegai, nor the Sun of Vergina, neither the Sun of Kutlesh, even less of Kutlush, BUT IT IS MACEDONIAN SUN. It is found on many places in Macedonia, including (for example) Ohrid, where just before 3 months we found many cups (for wine drinking), all woth suns in different shapes and dimensions, INCLUDING some with the exact shape of that ancient macedonian tomb in aigi. Do you find this valuable? |
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138. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 1:49 PM EST
"NO matter how u look at it! MACEDONIA IS GREECE""Slogans"? OK, repeat it once more if you want to releaf from the propaganda pressures. I know that you have mind problem. You are fake man, anyway. *** Now, let's discuss a little bit about your propaganda. I think that it is more accurate if you write it oppposite and in past tense: Greece WAS Macedonia! Really, If you look in the history (that you like that much) Greece was part of the Macedonian empire. The closest part, but also the least cooperative. *** Macedonia is NOT Greece. Half of Macedonia is IN Republic of Greece. The other part is independant country: Republic of Macedonia. *** This is very easy to understand. It is similar to the Ireland case: Irealand is not England, even part of it: "Northern Ireland" is part of the United Kingdom *** You are confusing people, because you have mixed Greece and Repubic of Greece and you (deliberatly) use greece for all. Yes, part of Macedonia (as a geographical region) is in the Republic of Greece, but that is not Greece. Do you understand that Republic of Greece = Greece + (part of) Trakia + (part of) Macedonia + Epir + Thessaly + Islands And only half of Macedonia is in Republic of Greece. *** TO SUMARIZE: Macedonia is NOT Greece. Even if you occupy it all. *** I know that you like history, better then the reality, so here is one sentence just for you: (Livy, BOOK XXVII, par.22:) "Publius Sulpicius was also continued in command for a year, to hold the provinces of Macedonia and Greece." :-) I do not insist on this, but I know that you will like it (especially if that stupid Livy wrote: Macedonia, "which is greece", instead of "and greece" :-))) Do you find this valuable? |
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139. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 1:53 PM EST
"before that you used the bulgarian lion and the slogan of "Freedom ot death" ( Sloboda ili smurt ) na BRCK na Vasil Levski!"We still use that when we swear to the motherland: "Freedom or death". Please do not confuse Anthem (himna) and Coat of Arms (grb on macedonian; heraldic symbol) with a swearing phrase. WE USE IT ALL. That is why we are Macedonians. Do you find this valuable? |
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140. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 2:02 PM EST
"We still use that when we swear to the motherland: "Freedom or death".Скопие. „Добрите рибари знаят, че с евтина примамка могат да хванат глупави риби. А пуснатата от Русия българска „риба” в европейско море още преди 130 години многократно се показа не само като алчна и корумпирана, а и като глупава.” Това пише днес Стефан Влахов Мицов в авторски текст, публикуван в македонския вестник ”Време”. „Арт-проектът „Ентропия”: Стереотипи и барикади за срутване”, чрез които Чехия символизира своето председателство kd ЕС, се вписва в чешкия лозунг „Европа без граници”. Освен това и за Европа без предразсъдъци и догми, за плурализъм и толерантност. Гигантската инсталация, с размери от 16 квадратни метра и тегло осем тона, поставена в сградата на Европейския съвет в Брюксел, изправи пред изпитание демократичните институции, медиите и гражданите в 27 страни членки на ЕС”, пише авторът в текст, озаглавен „Кенефът като огледало”. „В капана „Ентропа” се хванаха няколко медии от Германия, Полша, Холандия и Англия, една партия – Националистическата словашка национална партия и цяла една държава – България. За първи път цялата европейска общественост разбра „мръсната приказка” за тази държава, за нейните институции от сталинистки тип, за партиите и медиите, свързани с властта, за „творческите” организации, за ксенофобията и шовинизма на българското общество. Всеки ден преди, даже и по време на откриването на изложбата, България изпращаше протестни ноти до всички възможни институции в ЕС. В масовата истерия се включи министърът на външните работи Калфин, говорителката на постоянното представителство на България в ЕС – Житева, която в духа на старата хунобългарска традиция заяви: „С чукове ще разруша артинсталацията с турската тоалетна”, пише Стефан Влахов Мицов. Moje li takava zloba i omraza be?!................ Eiii, ne se nau4ihte na uvajenie i vazpitanie! Vinagi shte si ostanete divaci i seliani na balkanite bez gram takt i uvajenie! Seliani prosti! Namerili koi kogo da kritikuva! Do you find this valuable? |
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141. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 2:15 PM EST
"Скопие. „Добрите рибари знаят, че с евтина примамка могат да хванат глупави риби. А пуснатата от Русия българска „риба” в европейско море още преди 130 години многократно се показа не само като алчна и корумпирана, а и като глупава.” Това пише днес Стефан Влахов Мицов в авторски текст, публикуван в македонския вестник ”Време”.1. Nas ni bili pusnali predi 130 godini Rusnacite...... A vas koi vi PUSNA....... Toz koito vi PUSNA sigurno gorko sajaliava za tova! 2. Bili sme MRUSNA PRIKAZKA! Dosta silni dumi...... Az pak ti kajuvam! Minalata godina biah vo Macedonia! Po golema mizeria ne biah vijdal! I nie ne sme za hvalene no ot niakolko godini se opraviame! 3. Partii ot Staliniski tip?????? Da ne sme slu4aino v TOTALITARNA darjava o6te??? Be zda sum razbral? Tozi tupak znae li kakvo zna4i STALINISKI TIP!?!? Tova zna4i ia si kazal ne6to napreki - ia sa ti pusnali edin kurshum! 4. Bulgaria i shovinisam???????? Tova e nai golemia maitap! Surbia i shovinisam - DA! Macedonia i shovinisam - DA! No Balgaria i shovinisam????? NE! Nie vse o6te si blijem ranite ot nalojenia prez komunizma NIHILIZAM!!!!! Naborite na ba6ta mi sa bez nacionalno samo4ustvie i poniakoga sa ANTIBALGARSKI NASTROENI! TA nie 18 godini edna krepost ne si vastanovihme , edno istori4esko predavane ne napravihme ..... za povdigane na nacionalnoto samo4ustvie! Samo se doe6e i krade6e naroda ot ebanite politici - nihilisti. Sa6tite ot reformiranata komunisti4eska partia! 5. Da ne govorim za izraza HUNObulgarska.....?????????????? Tozi avtor e tolkova prost - 4e edin tekst ne e pro4el prez jivota si ili e platen provokator i propagandator! Huni i Bulgari se razli4avat kakto Skandinavci sus Kitaici!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Moje bi sme imali vid na TOALETNA predi 12 godini kogato Bulgaria beshe MNOGO zle. No dnes - gradeiki imidj pred Evropa sus golemi usilia! Izlizaiki ot nai tejkia prehod na darjavite ot Varshavskia dogovor - ne zaslujavame tolkova BRUTALNA asociacia! Zatova durjavata durje6e da se mahne! Tova e istinska GAVRA! Mama vi da eba pederi ne6tastni - stoite si v svinskata darjavica i pliuite naokolo otrova i jlu4. Tam 6te si i ostanete! Ei zaradi takiva ne6ta niama da vi POMAGAME! Do you find this valuable? |
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142. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 5:46 PM EST
"Скопие. „Добрите рибари знаят, че с евтина примамка могат да хванат глупави риби. А пуснатата от Русия българска „риба” в европейско море още преди 130 години многократно се показа не само като алчна и корумпирана, а и като глупава.” Това пише днес Стефан Влахов Мицов в авторски текст, публикуван в македонския вестник ”Време”.Jas kolku sto znam, Stefan Vlahov Micov e covek koj e roden vo Republika Bugarija i koj bil profesor vo Sofija, dodeka ne go izbrkale, bidejki imal podrugi tezi od "oficijalnite" Bugarski tezi za Makedoncite. Mozebi i treba da ima malku omraza? A ne znam ni za kakva omraza zboruvas? Covekot samo go komentiral toa sto toj go gleda... Do you find this valuable? |
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143. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 5:54 PM EST
"2. Bili sme MRUSNA PRIKAZKA! Dosta silni dumi...... Az pak ti kajuvam! Minalata godina biah vo Macedonia! Po golema mizeria ne biah vijdal! I nie ne sme za hvalene no ot niakolko godini se opraviame!"Vidi - ne ste nekoja sjajna drzava. Nemoj da mu se lutish sto go napisal toa sto go gleda. I jas ti kazuvam - bev vo Bugarija pred 2 nedeli i gledam: 1. deka nemate WiFi ni vo hotelite, a ovde vo hotelce vo Kichevo ima besplaten WiFI, pa mozam da surfam na internet 2. deka ulicite vi se mali i polni so dupki 3. deka ima mnogu nesrekni lica po ulicite 4. deka eden policaec zapna da me kaznuva za vinjatka (demek bila istecena iako ne bese - na vinjetkite se oznacuva koga se izdadeni, a ne do koga traat? toa i mu go dokazav so beleshkata od granica koga se gleda koga sum vlegol vo BG), pa prodolzi deka ne sum bil vrzan so pojas (a kako bi imal koga po negovo baranje izlegov od kolata (koga i go otkopcav pojasot)), za na kraj da zakluci deka seto toa moze da se resi ako go "pocherpam" 5 leva... ima uste i dobri i losho raboti, ama nemam vreme. *** Toa deka si bil vo makedonija ne sum siguren. Pred nekolku nedeli mi rece deka si bil samo ednash i toa pred mnogu godini, ama me mrzi da ti go baram postot. Tuku, ako beshe - kaj beshe? I kakva mizerija vide? *** Jas ti kazav, pa ti ako sakash veruvaj ako sakash ne - ne ste "opraveni". vie ste podobri od sto bevte, ama uste ste pozadi makedonija. Do you find this valuable? |
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144. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 5:56 PM EST
"3. Partii ot Staliniski tip?????? Da ne sme slu4aino v TOTALITARNA darjava o6te??? Be zda sum razbral?stalinski tip moze da bide i od pomali dimenzii - ako si kazal nesto napreki, nema kursum, ama ima gubenje rabota, maltretiranje, tepanje. vreganje... moze imate takvo nesto? jas kolku sto znam, toj izbegan e od tamu poradi toa. Do you find this valuable? |
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145. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 6:01 PM EST
"4. Bulgaria i shovinisam???????? Tova e nai golemia maitap! Surbia i shovinisam - DA! Macedonia i shovinisam - DA! No Balgaria i shovinisam????? NE! Nie vse o6te si blijem ranite ot nalojenia prez komunizma NIHILIZAM!!!!! Naborite na ba6ta mi sa bez nacionalno samo4ustvie i poniakoga sa ANTIBALGARSKI NASTROENI!da be.... site imaat shovinizam, samo vie nemate LOL i da - gi zaboravi tie na koi sega im go pushite (sto vikaat bugarkite "im go duvate", sucking): grcite. i tie nemaat shovinizam. ne deka nemaat, tuku zasto im go pusite. Im se podadovte... Na kraj si napisha i ti sam deka ne ste bash cveke za mirisanje :-))) dobro e --- vide barem nesto vo maglata koja se vika Republika Bugarija (clen na EU, klozetskiot) Do you find this valuable? |
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146. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 6:05 PM EST
"Moje bi sme imali vid na TOALETNA predi 12 godini kogato Bulgaria beshe MNOGO zle. No dnes - gradeiki imidj pred Evropa sus golemi usilia! Izlizaiki ot nai tejkia prehod na darjavite ot Varshavskia dogovor - ne zaslujavame tolkova BRUTALNA asociacia! Zatova durjavata durje6e da se mahne! Tova e istinska GAVRA!"Ne znam sto e toa "GAVRA", no nema vrska. Tuku ova ne ti e tocno: "Moje bi sme imali vid na TOALETNA predi 12 godini..." Vie pred 12 dena kaj toj chehot imavte vid na turski klozet, ne pred 12 godini. Dobro, znam sega ke rechesh deka Makedoncite ti se krivi za toa. Moze nie go potkupivme? Sigurno nie sme go izlazale. I taka nie sve lazeme za Makedonija i Bugarija. :-))) I nemojte tolku da go gradite imigot. Sledniot pat moze da vi stavi turski klozeti so WiFi, pa da gi nema i tie kablite - da bidat samo klozetite. :-))) Ajde, se salam ne se luti tolku mnogu.... A mnogu si naiven, moze i nema da ja razberesh shegata :-)))) Do you find this valuable? |
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147. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 7:33 PM EST
"Mama vi da eba pederi ne6tastni - stoite si v svinskata darjavica i pliuite naokolo otrova i jlu4. Tam 6te si i ostanete!1. Dobro, ajde pcuj, znam deka ti e teshko, moze ke ti stane polesno. Makedonija e kriva toa sto Chesite ve gledaat kako turski klozet. :-))) 2. Ova "svinska' da go svatam deka si musliman, pa mi ja vregash drzavata? 3. Ova "darjavica" e deka sme 4 pati pomali od Republika Bugarija? Pa vie ste stvarno golemi. Edno drzavishte koe e 38 pati pomalo od USA. Ama sto e bitno 38 e pomalku od 4? Ili ne beshe taka? Ajde opcuj uste ednash sto ste tolku pomalu od USA, sto od pogled od tamu Makedonija i Bugarija i druga sitna boranija se mnogu mali. Ajde, mamata pederska. Nestashna? 4. Da si ostaneme ovde? Pa nie ne ni mislime da ideme na drugo mesto, kako sto e bugarija. Ne daj boze tolku nisko da padneme. Dosta pagavme. Ama ako - eve jas ke ti posakam nesto podobro: daj boze vie da stignete kade sto bese makedonija vo 1991, barem za 10 godini. 5. E poradi toa sto Chesite ve gledaat kako klozet, e zatoa NEMOJ da ni pomagate. Ne samo sto do sega epten mnogu ni pomognavte i gledam se samo rozi e posleno okolu nas, tuku vie stvatno mozete da ni pomognete... Eve na primer, mozete da pratite uste 2 bugarki da mi go ispusat za po 10 leva. Sto si zamisluvash - jas ti kazav - bugarija, duri i da ne te poslusha tebe, i da saka ednash vo nejzinata 2+ veka promashena politika da napravi nesto korisno za nea, NEMA SILA, NEMA ZNAENJE.... Voopshto ne e bitna!!! Ne zaboravaj da se javish na Planet TV i da pustish nekoja poraka da vidish dali ke te poslusha vladata vo nepomaganjeto. AMA CHEKAJ? Pa tamu se tie mrsnite loshite makedonci sto ziveat vo mizerija. Kako li pustaat poraki poveke od bugarite iako se 4 pati pomalku? Najverojatno se besplatni vo makedonija, ili mora da e nekoja ujdurma kon bugarite? kaj moze decata vo makedonija da imaat poveke pari za poraki od semoknite bugari koi se rasturaat od pomaganje. ROTFL :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))) Do you find this valuable? |
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148. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 9:38 PM EST
"First reply:Har har har! First of all, the Ancient symbol is undisputably the sun or some other star. Apart from that, the rays of the Aegae star are different from the sun's, because they are not joined in the circular core, unlike a normal representation of the sun like the one in your coat of arms. Furthermore, the explanation of your coat of arms is as following: http://flagspot.net/flags/yu_fy-mk.html#coa The coat of arms of Socialist Macedonia is prescribed by Act on the Coat of Arms of the People's Republic of Macedonia, adopted by the People's Assembly of the People's Republic of Macedonia on its second extraordinary session held on July 27, 1946, later on altered by Article 8 of the Constitution of the Socialist Republic of Macedonia, as follows: The coat of arms is framed by a garland of ears of wheat, tobacco and poppy, tied by a ribbon with the pattern of a traditional costume. In the centre of such a circular space there are mountains, rivers, lakes and the sun; where the ears join there is a red five-pointed star. All this represents "the richness of our country, the struggle and the freedom". This coat of arms was retained as the coat of arms of the Republic of Macedonia after independence and is still in use. Željko Heimer, 14 July 2006 So, you had the sun along with wheat, tobacco, poppy, pattern of costume, mountains, rivers, lakes, and all pointing to the real symbol: the Communist 5 ray star! Only I was missing from that emblem. Alas, the star of Aigai had only one thing: The 16 ray star/sun. Furthermore, as Andy Fear pointed out, that emblem appeared first in India, crossed though Persia, all of Greece, and Macedonia as well - all of these during the Ancient times. there is no historical reference that it was an Ancient Macedonian emblem whatsoever!!! As a matter of fact, it is not!!! It was part of the Persian loot!!! Do you find this valuable? |
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149. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 9:51 PM EST
""Slogans"?I'd like to finish with the sun/star affair first. A Greek fella suggested that this emblem was a Panhellenic emblem (i.e. used as a common symbol by all ancient Greeks) something that I cannot agree with, but he found sufficient evidence to prove that this sun/star with rays detached from the circular core have been found all around Greece (and beyond, starting from India, as I Andy Fear has pointed out) You can see the pictures of his article that show this emblem in Ancient Greek coins, amphoraes, even the Parthenon of Athens itself - and the copy Parthenon in Nashville of Tennessee!!! Therefore, the star/sun was not an exclusively Ancient Macedonian emblem, nor used by the Ancient Macedonians themselves as their symbol according to any ancient sources the way the Romans used S.P.Q.R. or the Athenians used the statues of goddess Athena. As for Macedonia, take a look at its' location in Antiquity in here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Macedonian_Kingdom.jpg As you can see very little of your country was part of Ancient Macedonia. The most of your modern country was Ancient Paeonia and part of Ancient Dardania. Enjoy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paionia Paionia or Paeonia was in ancient geography, the land of the Paeonians, the exact boundaries of which, like the early history of its inhabitants, are very obscure but they were in the region of Thrace. In the time of Classical Greece, Paionia originally including the whole Axius River valley and the surrounding areas, in what is now the northern part of the Greek region of Macedonia, most of the Republic of Macedonia, and a small part of western Bulgaria.[1] It was located immediately north of ancient Macedon (roughly corresponding to the modern Greek region of Macedonia) and south of Dardania (Europe) (roughly corresponding to modern-day Kosovo). In the east were other Thracians and in the west the Illyrians. Do you find this valuable? |
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Petros_Houhoulis |
150. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 20 2009, 9:53 PM EST
Sorry, I forgot the link that I promised in the above message. Here you go:http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/88044 Do you find this valuable? |
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151. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 5:57 AM EST
"Jas kolku sto znam, Stefan Vlahov Micov e covek koj e roden vo Republika Bugarija i koj bil profesor vo Sofija, dodeka ne go izbrkale, bidejki imal podrugi tezi od "oficijalnite" Bugarski tezi za Makedoncite.Ti naistina si baia prost i ne vijda6 kartinkata..... Za poreden pat se 4udia na sebe si za6to si pravia truda da obiasniavam na edno goliamo dete..... Ti ne razbira6 li 4e takiva statii vav cheteni vestnici podstrekavat antibulgarski nastroenia????? Tova spored teb polezno li e za nashite otnoshenia????????? A??????? Ako e polezno - da po4vame i nie da pishem antimakedonski statii i da gi poblikuvame daje na svetovni mediumi za da vi unishtojat i malkoto ostanal imidj na izvinenie za durjava!??? Nali tiabvashe na oficialno ravni6te da spazvame dobria ton??? Ili e opasno za macedonizma da spre s antibulgarskata propaganda koiato ne e spiarala 60 godini???? Izlagate se kato kifladjii!!!!! Do you find this valuable? |
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152. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 6:09 AM EST
"Vidi - ne ste nekoja sjajna drzava. Nemoj da mu se lutish sto go napisal toa sto go gleda. I jas ti kazuvam - bev vo Bugarija pred 2 nedeli i gledam:Az ne sum kazval 4e sme siajna durjava! 1. U koi evtin hotel si bil 4e da niama WIFI??????? Sigurno si niamal pari za po ubav??? Tuka vo Tarnovo ima i v zavedeniata za burzo hranene deto s tablite hodish na samoobslujvane. Da ne govorim za hotelite..... 2. Ami Bulgaria e 5 - 6 pati po goliama ot vashia kenef. Ne mislish li 4e triabva malko poveke vreme za da si opravim VSI$KI ulici? I kade pa si hodil neznam no ve4e na po goliamata 4ast ot stranata puri6tata sa opraveni ili se praviat. Magistralite sa na 60% gotovi i te sa dulgi! Po 700 do 1300 km ednata! U vas kolko sa dulgi? 200 km???:))))) 3.Ima gi navsiakade nesretnicite! I poveketo sa cigani! Niama opravia s tiah! 4.Policaite imat niski dohodi. Sega sta4kuvat za po visoki. Dosta ot tiah uvolniha i osudiha to4no za takiva ne6ta! Tebe kato te e vidial 4e si prost i 4e ne si ot Bulgaria se e re6il da se probva. I e uspel.... Beh v Skopie. PArvo - grozen grad. Komunisti4eski sgradi otvsiakade. Ko64eta prepalneni s bokluk -prelivat . Bokluk po zemiata. Nastupah laino na glavnia put. Peiki na4upeni i stari. Koshove naritani i nakriveni. Olusteni sgradi. PAk kazvam - i unas sme ne6to takova , ama vie ste mnogo po zle. I 4ak mi e sme6no 4e vodia takuv detski razgovor. Koi po zle ot drugia. No na 4ovek sas detski akul kao tebe niama kak po drug na4in da obiasniavam. Puk da sme pozadi ot Macedonia:)))))))) Tovae nai sme6nia vic:))))) Samo 6te ti predam komentara na edin "macedonec" za Bulgaria: Abe vie sto vo Evropata be! Jas sum odil po Sofia, Varna, Slanchev briag, Plovdiv...... Mnogo ste napred! Ogromni hoteli, ogromni kopleksi, moderni sgradi. Mnogo napred ste drupnali........ Az kato doidoh vidiah strana i nardo zastinali v komunizmot. Po4ti NISHTO novo ne se slu4va u vas..... Do you find this valuable? |
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153. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 6:11 AM EST
"stalinski tip moze da bide i od pomali dimenzii - ako si kazal nesto napreki, nema kursum, ama ima gubenje rabota, maltretiranje, tepanje. vreganje... moze imate takvo nesto?Nema takiva raboti. No u vas ima! Samo potarsi v YOUTUBE i shte vidish macedoncite s balgarsko saznanie kakvo kazvat za vashata darjava.! Totalitarizam i antibalgarizam! Do you find this valuable? |
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samuil |
154. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 6:12 AM EST
"da be.... site imaat shovinizam, samo vie nemate LOL?????????? Tova niama da go komentiram...... Do you find this valuable? |
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155. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 6:15 AM EST
"Ne znam sto e toa "GAVRA", no nema vrska.Chehut si e cheh..... Mene me drazni statiata vav vestnika mi! Kaji mi ti kakvi nastroenia i kakvo shte vazpita tazi statia u vas???? Lubov kum saseda? Lubov kum brata>????? Ili po skoro o6te antibalgarizam i povodi za ebavane s "mrusnite i gadni bugari"????????? Do you find this valuable? |
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156. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 6:24 AM EST
"1. Dobro, ajde pcuj, znam deka ti e teshko, moze ke ti stane polesno. Makedonija e kriva toa sto Chesite ve gledaat kako turski klozet. :-)))Svinska vi e darjavicata vi za6ttoto e mrusna kato svinarnik! I dushevno i moralno i realno! Mrusni sa vi drebnite dushi4ki. Omurseni ot nasajdana omraza kum sobstvenata vi kruv! Vie ste urodliv narod. Dushevno izroden i obremenen. I ne vijdam koga shte se opraVite.... Vie po nisko ot tova mojete da padnete i tovae kogato vi iz4ezne darjavata. Pa togava ke odite pri albancite da im lapate kurovete oficialno. Ili pri sarbite da im blijete anusot. Kakto i do dnes pravite de...... Pri nas niama da doidete shtoto ni mrazite. Az ne znam za kakvo se habim da ni zaobi4ate?! Pa i vie podmolno i licemerno propagandirate bulgarite v Albania i Kosovo i im pla6tate da se pi6at Macedonci! Puk te si znaiat! Kato gi pita6 kakvi sa - vikat bulgari ili gorani, torbeshi i dr. - no nikoga macedonci! Kato gipita6 na kakuv ezik zboruvat! Te ogovariat - BULGARSKI! Ta taka - vie ste edni licemerni kopeleta i mi se iska Bulgaria da opreeli strategiata na podobriavane na otnosheniata sus strategia celia6ta uni6tojavane na macedonizma i nalagane na veto za NATO i ES. No kato gledam..... to mai natam otivat ne6tata. Stoite s v dupkata - izolirani otvsekade. Da stignem makedonia kakto e bila predi 10 godini? Ta togava nie triabva da se varnem 60 godini nazad??? Niama da vi pomaganme ne zaradi Chehite ami zaradi vasheto otnoshenie! Samo ne6to malko negativno da izleze za Bulgaria i vashte mediumi go hva6tat i go razduvat kato balon! Za6to? Za6ttioto triabva da zhranvat antibalgarizma! Za6ttoto niakoi niama smetka nie da sme v dobri otno6enia! Tova za PLanet TV ne go razbrah?????? Do you find this valuable? |
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157. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 11:47 AM EST
ЕП: Македонските власти да вземат мерки за "говора на омразата" срещу България 21 януари 2009 | 18:37 | Агенция "Фокус" Брюксел. Комисията по външни отношения на Европейския парламент прие проект на резолюция за напредъка на Македония през 2008 г. Подкрепа от всички политически групи получи поправка, внесена от Николай Младенов (ЕНП-ЕД/ГЕРБ), изразяваща загрижеността на Европейския парламент за липсата на напредък в борбата срещу т.нар. "говор на омразата" в медиите и образователната система на Република Македония, съобщиха от офиса на евродепутата. "България подкрепя и ще продължи да подкрепя присъединяването на Македония към ЕС, но изкуственото нагнетяване на антибългарски настроения носи сериозни рискове за развитието на добросъседските отношения. Със съжаление отбелязвам, че македонските власти не предприемат необходимите мерки за осигуряване на публичното спазване на стандартите на ЕС и Съвета на Европа за противодействие на т.нар. "говор на омразата". За втора поредна година Европейският парламент обръща сериозно внимание на този проблем", заяви Младенов. Докладът приветства инициативите за създаване на съвместни групи, които да работят за преодоляване на противоречията, касаещи балканската история и призовава към съвместното почитане на общото ни културно-историческо наследство. "Фактът, че Европейският парламент отчита българските виждания за проблемите в Македония се дължи на доброто сътрудничество между нашите евродепутати от всички парламентарни групи", допълни Николай Младенов. Друго предложение на българските евродепутати, подкрепено от комисията по външни отношения на ЕП, е свързано с нуждата от подобряване на инфраструктурните връзки между Македония и нейните съседи, включително и България. Rano ili kasno vaprosite mejdu nas 6te se urediat..... No na 4ia strana e istinata?:)....... Izlagate se pred ES......... Do you find this valuable? |
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158. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 2:08 PM EST
"Az ne sum kazval 4e sme siajna durjava!1. ke ripnam za hotelite... ne si vo pravo, ama da ne gubam vreme. spored vashata klasifikacija beshe so 4 dzvezdi. 2. bugaria ne e 5-6 pati pogolema, tuku BG ima 7,6, a MK 2,1 milioni luge, pa sam vidi koj e poblisku (jas rekov 4 pati, a vsuhnost bilo 3,62 pati). takvi se tvoite fakti: pogreshni! A toa ako ste tri ipol pati poveke, ne znaci deka vi treba tri i pol pati poveke vreme. bidejki vo poveke luge ste. pak losha ti e matematikata. a ti kazav tochno kade javavme so 50km/h OD PRED PERNIK do PRED SOFIA. Toa beshe vo maj 2008ma, ne ovoj pat. Ovoj pat magistrala NE VIDOV, no ne ni ochekuvav - sepak se raboti za planina. 3. "nesretnicite" kaj vas ne se cigani, tuku bugari. Barem taka ste im rekle, a i ne bea crni, tuku beli kako makedonci 4. ne znam dali sum jas prost, ako namesto da izgubam 30 minuti so nekakov jadnik, ili da mu dadam 5 leva i da si odam? bash mislam deka sum pameten. 5. super sto si bil vo skopje. samo pak ne mi napisha koga. :-) A eksplicitno te prashav? ne si vo pravo za zgradite, no nemam namera da se raspravam. ti ja pocna rabotata da mi kazuvash kolku ste super, a jas samo ti kazav deka MOETO iskustvo ne e takvo. 6. Ne znam koj makedonec ti raskazuval, ama nie nemame zbor "drupnali", znaci pak izmisluvash? No i da ne izmisluvash, ne e nisto cudno: ima makedonci koi se dosta prosti. ne za dzabe sme tolku nazad, skoro kolku vas. Do you find this valuable? |
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159. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 2:10 PM EST
"1. ke ripnam za hotelite... ne si vo pravo, ama da ne gubam vreme. spored vashata klasifikacija beshe so 4 dzvezdi.hey bulgar!!!! are u back? hahaha i am still waiting for ur reply? is that so hard? i guess it is since u are a fraud! FYROM is not Macedonia, FYROM is ethnic Bulgarian! Do you find this valuable? |
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160. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 2:21 PM EST
"Nema takiva raboti. No u vas ima!gledam deka tuka youtube e glaven fakt. sto sakash da ti snimam :-))))))) tuku, zosto jas bi odel na youtube, koga sekoj den zboruvam so desetici ili stotici luge i ne mi zboruvaat nesto deka imaat "balgarsko" saznanie. naprotiv, 90% se duri i bez potreba luti na bugarite sto to im go nemtnuvaat. Jas ne sum. Znam vo kakov sistem ziveevte i kako vi bea izmieni mozocite po taa tema i plus znam deka i vie nemate sila da mrdnete od Grcite, pa morate da se drzite ko slep za stap Do you find this valuable? |
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161. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 2:57 PM EST
"gledam deka tuka youtube e glaven fakt. sto sakash da ti snimam :-)))))))Abe ti ot izvestno vreme nasam se mi prikazvash 4e sme se lepnali za Gurcite, 4e si davame zadnikot na Gurcite i dr. Zashto? Ne mi kaza zashto mislish taka? Ili prosto se opitvash da obijdash naroda ni vuz osnovata na niakakvi antibulgarski propagandi v Macedonia? Kaji mi za6to misli6 4e si davame gazovete i 4e sme nedostoini i za6to mislish 4e vie ste poveke ot nas. Da ne govorim 4e sme edin narod - bulgarski! Do you find this valuable? |
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samuil |
162. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 3:00 PM EST
"Ti naistina si baia prost i ne vijda6 kartinkata.....nisto ne mi komentira za tozi post..... Do you find this valuable? |
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163. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 3:02 PM EST
"2. Ami Bulgaria e 5 - 6 pati po goliama ot vashia kenef. Ne mislish li 4e triabva malko poveke vreme za da si opravim VSI$KI ulici? I kade pa si hodil neznam no ve4e na po goliamata 4ast ot stranata puri6tata sa opraveni ili se praviat. Magistralite sa na 60% gotovi i te sa dulgi! Po 700 do 1300 km ednata! U vas kolko sa dulgi? 200 km???:)))))abe ne govoria za luge be! Govoria za teritoria! Zemia! Do you find this valuable? |
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164. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 3:10 PM EST
"I'd like to finish with the sun/star affair first."ok - let's finish it first. summary: 1. We use it since our independence in 1944 2. You were 110 years before independent, but you hadn't used it. 2. A. You started using it from 1990s Do you find this valuable? |
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165. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 3:27 PM EST
"ok - let's finish it first. summary:Hey brainwashed.... Your independence is from 1991.... Do you find this valuable? |
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166. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 4:27 PM EST
"Hey brainwashed....wrong. Macedonia is independent from 02.08.1944. Latter it joined the the FEDERATION of Yugoslavia (FNRY), latter (in 1960s?) renamed to Socialist Federative Republic of Yugoslavia (SFRY). FNRY and SFRY were >>>federation<<< of 6 INDIPENDENT states. That was like Bulgaria (Macedonia) and EU (SFRY). Are you independent now, or not? Do you find this valuable? |
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167. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 4:29 PM EST
"abe ne govoria za luge be!abe ajde i po teritorija (iako teritorijate recisi i da ne e vazna, taka bi ispadnalo deka kanada e pojaka od USA, i deka Alzir e podobar od Tunis,...) po teritorija, vie ste 110.000 km2, a makedonija e 25.000 km2, ili 4,2 pati. Znaci pak JAS SUM VO PRAVO, a ti lazesh koga vikash 5 do 6 pati. Do you find this valuable? |
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168. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 4:32 PM EST
"nisto ne mi komentira za tozi post....."Abe ti navistina si bil PROST! Sto da ti komentiram na vakvi glupi navredi? Da ne mislish deka se soglasuvam? :-))) Edinstveno sto mozev e da ti kazam deka ne razbiram sto ti e toa: "kartinkata". Do you find this valuable? |
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169. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 21 2009, 4:36 PM EST
"Abe ti ot izvestno vreme nasam se mi prikazvash 4e sme se lepnali za Gurcite, 4e si davame zadnikot na Gurcite i dr.Abe si gi davate gazovite zatoa sto rabotite za nivnite interesi. I se toa zaradi nekoja sitna para koja ja dobivaat vasite podmiteni politicari, a vie im kutite i uste gi poddrzuvate grcite vo nivnite tvrdenja deka tie se edinstveni naslednici na sve zivo na balkanot, a deka vie ste recisi nikoj i nisto (samo i edinstveno bugari) i uste (spored vas) i nie sme bile isti kako vas ("cisti i edinstveno bugari"), pa so toa isto taka nikoj i nisto. Ne, nie sme Makedonci, zatoa sto ziveeme vo makedonija SO GENERACII (VEKOVI), a toa vklucuva se sto bilo ovde. I toa im go kazuvame na grcite vo lice i ne se plasime iako se 5 pati povek od nas. Do you find this valuable? |
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170. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 12:34 PM EST
"wrong.Bwaaahahahahahahahhaha this is the funiest joke:))))) Macedonia is independent from 1991 remember? We were one of the first that RECOGNIZED your inependence! REMEMBER!? Your INDEPENDENCE! That means that before that you were DEPENDANT! Macedonia become serbian slave again in 1944. You were JOINED by force! You were ocupied by the serbs! You were created like federation of "macedonians" for two pourpouses - to separate you from us and to become a bridge for Yougoslavia to ocupy the aegeyan macedonia as well. You were RENAMED 1960s into SFRY. Afcourse we are dependant! But in our own will! That means that we can exit the EU whenever we want!Every country that join EU becomes dependant from the others! We are not slaves like you in Yougoslavia! Do you find this valuable? |
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171. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 12:37 PM EST
"abe ajde i po teritorija (iako teritorijate recisi i da ne e vazna, taka bi ispadnalo deka kanada e pojaka od USA, i deka Alzir e podobar od Tunis,...)Off GLUPAKO ne kazvam 4e kato imash po goliama teritoria, si po iak! Az govoria za tova 4e imame blizo 5 pati pove4e teritoria ( tova zna4i i patishta i magistrali) i 4e e mnogo po bavno remontiraneto i izgrajdaneto na puti6tata na 5 pati po giolema teritoria! Do you find this valuable? |
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172. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 12:38 PM EST
"Abe ti navistina si bil PROST! Sto da ti komentiram na vakvi glupi navredi?Ami ako ne se soglasuvash zna4i si prost propagandator kato vsi4kite ti tapi sanarodnici! Az tova si go znam otdavna de..... Do you find this valuable? |
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173. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 12:49 PM EST
"Abe si gi davate gazovite zatoa sto rabotite za nivnite interesi. I se toa zaradi nekoja sitna para koja ja dobivaat vasite podmiteni politicari, a vie im kutite i uste gi poddrzuvate grcite vo nivnite tvrdenja deka tie se edinstveni naslednici na sve zivo na balkanot, a deka vie ste recisi nikoj i nisto (samo i edinstveno bugari) i uste (spored vas) i nie sme bile isti kako vas ("cisti i edinstveno bugari"), pa so toa isto taka nikoj i nisto.HAHAHAH abe zabaven si...... KAji sega za koi to4no interesi rabotim? Konkretno mi kaji niakolko! A ne taka prosto da hvurlia6 vav vazduha..... HAHAHA za sitna para...... Choveche malko..... tia okradoha Bulgaria! Te imat MILIARDI v evro! Ne sa sitni parite brat4e, v gre6ka si! HEHHEHE - kaji mi KOGA i KADE sme gi podkrepiali v tehni tvardenia koito imat konflikt s Bulgarskite??? NAprotiv - nie dopredi 2-3 godini behme v postoianen KONFLIKT! Edin primer e 4e te durjat ISTORIA SLAVIANOBOLGARSKA - ORGINAL na ba6tata na vazrajdaneto ni - bulgarinat Paisii Hilendarski anie darjahme nekvi elinisti4ni artefakti deto ne gi pomnia ve4e! Baia problemi si sazdavahme. Gurci kato idvat v Bulgaria - na6te policai i grani4ari se gavreha s tiah. I obratnoto - nie kato hodehme v Gurcia - ebavaha se s nas na granicata i se zaiajdaha! Sega za parvi pat ot 70 godini nasam si podobrihme otno6eniata! No drug na4in niama! Ili sme dobri sasedi i pravim VZAIMNI kompromisi ili nie (bulgarite) si ostavame izvan borda ( EU ). I vsi4ko si izbistrihme po edin civilizovan i evropeiski na4in! I ednite i drugite napraviha kompromis za da varvim zaedno napred! Tova se otnasia i za vsi4ki drugi darjavi s koito si pratnirame! Ami 4e Bulgari ste - estestveno! Az ti dadoh 1000 dokazatelstva a ti nito edno! Ama ne me interesuva ve4e kakvo mislish. Ti dostatu4no se izloji! SO GENERACII ste jivele v BULGARIA i okolo 50 - 60 godini v Yugoslavia. Ot 18 godini ste v Macedonia! Tova e realnosta! KAzvai be - kakvoto iska6. Lai si tam vav kolibata ot koiato niama da izleze6. Do you find this valuable? |
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174. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 1:14 PM EST
i am still waiting for the answer FYROMian dude!!!! u are not getting away that easy! Let me tell u a secret, u can't answer even that simple question cause u are not macedonian, u are Bulgarian!MACEDONIA was a Greek kingdom! FYROM whose real name is Vardarska is pure Bulgarian! Do you find this valuable? |
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175. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 1:27 PM EST
"i am still waiting for the answer FYROMian dude!!!! u are not getting away that easy! Let me tell u a secret, u can't answer even that simple question cause u are not macedonian, u are Bulgarian!Yep! That is right! Do you find this valuable? |
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176. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 3:59 PM EST
"Bwaaahahahahahahahhaha this is the funiest joke:)))))Whatever, I can not argue if you "know" better then me about me... :-))) However, I made a comparison for you. Yes, we were somehow depandent on the Yugoslavian federation, as you are also in EU. BUT, and it was writen in the Constitution of SFRY, it was a community of 6 INDEPENDENT STATES. We had our own Macedonian government, Macedonian parliament, ... Similary like EU now that has 27 states. And yes, in 1944 we were by forced put in Yugoslavia (and UK and Russia) to be part of it. We wanted to be separate country, as we are now. But Tito put many Macedonians in jails and on the croatian islands to dig stones for no reason, and even killed many of them, especially at the end of WWII, when macedonians wanted to go to the south macedonia and help macedonians there. But that is history, and it is not worth of repeating. If you say so, we are independent from 1991 (but you are not any more :-))) ) *** But after the initial revolt of Macedonians (and stop of the hostilities by the greeks), we continued to live in joint federation with serbs, croats, kosovars and slovenians. We were not treated as slaves (especially not as you were treated by the Russians) at any moment. That is lie, or you were lied by someone else. On the contraty, we (and Kosovo) received funds for underdeveloped for tens of years. We have right to go everywhere we want, and right to buy property and work anywhere in Yugoslavia. Maybe some small economical exploatation, but that is normal if you are smaller. Do you find this valuable? |
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177. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 4:08 PM EST
"Off GLUPAKO ne kazvam 4e kato imash po goliama teritoria, si po iak!abe nemate 5 pati, tuku 4 pati (toa ti e greska od 25%). I nema vrska sto imate 4 pati poveke zemja, imate i 4 pati poveke luge, pa toa se krati. da ste imale barem malku dobro brazovanie po fizika (nalet sto ste nemale po istorija) lesno ke razbereshe, bidejki se kratat mernite edinici i pak sporeduvame isti raboti. a celoto ova so goleminata pocna koga ti mi kazuvashe deka (od inat ili ne znam od koja glupost) nemalo da ni pomagate, a jas ti rekov deka bash i ne mi e mnogu gajle zasto i vie ste beznacajni skoro isto kako i nie i ti dadov sporedba. ajde uste edna da ti dadam: ako gledash od tuka prema jupiter so mal (ili uste podobro pogolem) teleskop ke vidish 4 mali tocki (moze nekoja da e skriena pozadi jupiter ama pocekaj malku). Dve od niv se pogolemi od drugite dve za 2-3 pati. Ama jupiter e pogolem za 40 pati (samo vo golemina, vo volumen i tezina i poveke). Pa ako nekoj gleda ne vika deka gleda vo Jupiter, Ganimed i Io, tuku samo vo Jupiter, a so golo oko i samo Jupiter se gleda. Ova deka ste 40 pati pomali od US, pa niv bash im e gajle gledano od DC dali ste 7 ili 2 milioni. GLUP sum jas, ama barem znam deka 100 : 7 e priblizno isto kako 25 : 2. I deka se vraka na kontekstot koj tebe postojano ti se gubi. E KRAJNATA POENTA E: Da prestanesh da mudruvash i da mi kazesh so 2 recenici: 1. Zosto ne sum Makedonec? i 2. Koja e korista na Bugarija od toa? Do you find this valuable? |
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178. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 4:29 PM EST
"HAHAHAH abe zabaven si......1. Ti kazav konkretno - za da vi ja kupat zemjata i da ni ja kupat nas (i na albancite itn.) im treba nikoj da ne im se buni. Zatoa Srbite gi angaziraa protiv albancite, nas ni izmislija problem deka ne znaeme koj sme, a vas nemaa sto, pa ve upotrebuvaat protiv nas, a za kontra"usluga", ako voopshto e usluga, vi dadoa da vlezete vo EU. Toa im odgovarashe i na drugi (da ne navleguvam, ama na grcite dobro im legna). I sega vie za sitni, pa i mnogu ne bitni raboti (pr. imate poslednite 10 godini podobri pasosi od nas i imate naterano so sila da se potpisat 10.000 makedonci deka se "bugari" i vie mu se raduvate na toa livce hartija, AMA ZA TOA VREME, Grcite vi ja kupija zemjata za dzabe, pa uste ja napravija i nebitna, bidejki si sklucija razni dogovori koi ve zaobikoluvaat ako sakaat... da ne gubam vreme,,,, dolga e prikazanta, ama ve rabotat, a vie se raduvate kako mali deca na sitni raboti: 10.000 makedonci pishale (samo za da dobijat pasosh) deka se "bugari". A 9.500 od niv se potsmevaat kolku e glupa bugarskata drzava sto im dava pasos poradi toa sto ja izlazale :-))))) (i tie kako mali deca se raduvaat na glupost, a ovie si rabotat i ve osiromashuvaat i ve obezvrednuvaat. 2. Vidi - milijarda evra i ne e mnogu za edna drzava od 7 milioni luge. A sigurno ni tolku ne zele od grcite. 3. Si gi podobrivte odnosite, zatoa sto se uplasheni od nas (ne deka od nas, tuku go gubat znacenjeto za USA, pa baraat sitni prijateli kako vas i Srbite) 4. Abe ti slep si izgleda deka drzavata vo koja jas ziveev se vikala Republika Makedonija uste od 1944 godina, i Republika Makedonija bila ramnopravna FEDERALNA edinica na SFRY. 5. Abe ne znam zosto mislish deka jas "nema da izlezam" od "kolibata". Skopje e mnogu pogolemo i pointeresno za ziveenje od tvoeto ovcharsko selo na Rodopite (kako i da se vikashe), a odam koga sakam i kaj sakam. Do you find this valuable? |
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179. RE: ETYMOLOGY OF ANCIENT MACEDONIAN NAMES THAT SHOWS THEIR GREEK I.D.
Jan 22 2009, 4:34 PM EST
"i am still waiting for the answer FYROMian dude!!!! u are not getting away that easy! Let me tell u a secret, u can't answer even that simple question cause u are not macedonian, u are Bulgarian!hey fake macedonian :-))) I am still waiting on the answer: where do you use our Sun as a symbol? Anytime since the formation of your state Republic of Greece, or even before: Kingdom of Greece (with a king from Germany, but that doesn't make you Germans; similar even if Macedonian kings were from peloponez, that doesn't make macedonians peloponezian) If you use it, maybe then you could tell us about its meaning.... If not, why do you bother about our (possible) explanation of our symbol at all? P.S. What is that "FYROM"? Is it some abbreviation or what? Tell me the meaning of that too. Do you find this valuable? |
